tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.comments2023-05-04T04:21:54.340-07:00Everyday Enneagram BlogLynette Sheppardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02896463175847071518noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-77942205869727375302022-08-27T00:25:11.230-07:002022-08-27T00:25:11.230-07:00As a 5, I experience a sense of omniscience when ...As a 5, I experience a sense of omniscience when as I begin to speak or write the words flow out of me without any forethought. By the time I have finished speaking or writing I am satisfied with the result as are those listening to me as they generally remain silent as if they are digesting my words and I gain great satisfaction from this accumulated knowledge as it flows out of me. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-27083743362229421572020-06-04T09:34:16.305-07:002020-06-04T09:34:16.305-07:00Unknown said, "Holy omniscience is the relief...Unknown said, "Holy omniscience is the relief of that fear of not knowing, and trusting in the knowledge you already have.' That is called faith in oneself.OrangeZiggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09691707240196861521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-73074408628479005612020-01-23T14:03:22.868-08:002020-01-23T14:03:22.868-08:00Im a five currently in the process of understandin...Im a five currently in the process of understanding Holy omniscience and what has helped me understand it is exactly that, "I already know everything I need to know" As someone who is consistently focused on learning, I am sometimes paralyzed by that learning. For instance, I have been working on a book for awhile but I haven't sent it to publishers yet, because I keep thinking I need to do more research, ask more questions, get more feedback. This has been a theme throughout my life, procrastinating because I think I need more information or not starting the next phase of my life until I am an expert on everything that might happen. Holy omniscience is the relief of that fear of not knowing, and trusting in the knowledge you already have. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370058695666872501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-50630615422907312732017-04-16T08:10:48.616-07:002017-04-16T08:10:48.616-07:00Just wondering how Canadian denial of the coloniza...Just wondering how Canadian denial of the colonization agenda we built our nation on fits with the genogram. Through a intentional multipronged plan we designed legislation and programs such as the Indian Act and residential schools to "get rid of the Indian Problem" (sorry for writing such an offensive phrase but that is in fact what is written in our own documents). And now that we have apologized we want to just get on with it and not have to dedicate any effort to cleaning up the mess of broken generations. <br /><br />John Ralston Saul's book "A Fair Country" talks about our denial and the cognitive dissonance that has been created with regards to our Identity. How powerful we will be when we come clean through and through. <br /><br />How does this fit in with the enneagram typing? Diminishing the issues and dismissing ownership and personal responsibility in the face of the UN having determined it to have been a genocide. <br /><br />The new generation now taking the helm is shifting gears somewhat and as I see this I wonder - is this a change towards a different genogram type or an evolution to a more positive expression? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17672533692967505014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-77675507323568660842015-03-09T10:35:41.808-07:002015-03-09T10:35:41.808-07:00As a five I ponder definitions constantly. Trying ...As a five I ponder definitions constantly. Trying to define everything in terms of how it is experienced. <br />Omniscience is knowing exactly what one needs to know in the moment that one needs to know it. (The 'need to know it' is determined by the goals of the aggregate.) Awno'Kahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08603844492819082452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-24448522234433725442015-03-09T09:53:18.082-07:002015-03-09T09:53:18.082-07:00As a five I ponder definitions constantly. Trying ...As a five I ponder definitions constantly. Trying to define everything in terms of how it is experienced. <br />Omniscience is knowing exactly what one needs to know in the moment that one needs to know it. (The 'need to know it' is determined by the goals of the aggregate.) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13472171222769119809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-79405100610850163222013-09-09T22:14:52.817-07:002013-09-09T22:14:52.817-07:00This is cool!This is cool!Tobiashttp://themeatgrinders.info/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-8524316889493071662013-07-05T09:38:53.207-07:002013-07-05T09:38:53.207-07:00Liz, What a wonderful example - I could almost fee...Liz, What a wonderful example - I could almost feel what you were describing. Thank you so much for sharing it.Lynette Sheppardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02896463175847071518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-69519674144347197742013-06-27T14:24:49.933-07:002013-06-27T14:24:49.933-07:00Lynette wrote, "Omniscience is the sense that...Lynette wrote, "Omniscience is the sense that you already know everything you ever needed to know - something like that." The first experience of mine that comes to mind was when I had lunch with a friend who was upset about our "chauvinist pig" waiter and needed, it seemed, to rid him forever of his vice before she could leave. I, on the other hand, felt that if we weren't in this particular restaurant, we'd be in another one, in a way all the other restaurants. So why did this one waiter matter? I felt super-objective right then. Omniscient sort of. I was unusually patient with my upset friend, too, as though observing the conflict from a great distance. - LizElizabeth Wagelehttp://www.wagele.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-37033842579707588432013-05-29T00:09:41.589-07:002013-05-29T00:09:41.589-07:00People didn't want to be 'put into a box&#...People didn't want to be 'put into a box' of personality. It can be limiting for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-80140987179675674502013-04-29T17:30:06.497-07:002013-04-29T17:30:06.497-07:00Dear Anonymous,
Very true - Obama campaigns like a...Dear Anonymous,<br />Very true - Obama campaigns like a Three and governs like a Nine. He does try to mediate and reach compromise, it would be interesting to know if that is his bent because he is a Nine or an overlay from Hawaii - where I live, a Social Nine milieu. Wish we could ask him...Lynette Sheppardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02896463175847071518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-29434611399690578482013-04-29T16:26:57.512-07:002013-04-29T16:26:57.512-07:00With all due respect, 8s are more likely to show t...With all due respect, 8s are more likely to show their anger than any other type. By nature, 8s are conflict oriented. 3s, less authentic by nature, are more likely to smile through their seething teeth. Neither is amoral (wow - what a comment!) The health of the person depends on their level of morality.<br /><br />Obama is definitely not a 6. Its an interesting question regarding whether is a 3 or a 9. He campaigns like a 3 but governs like a 9.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-69432972911350808712012-10-22T11:19:06.626-07:002012-10-22T11:19:06.626-07:00OK, you have me. I actually post at my whim and wh...OK, you have me. I actually post at my whim and when I have time. The first couple of years, I posted once a month and more. Then I confess that I paid more attention to my other blogs. However, if someone writes with a specific question or topic, I will definitely address it. Thanks for asking. Lynette Sheppardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02896463175847071518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-41952735155049881152012-10-22T02:43:52.469-07:002012-10-22T02:43:52.469-07:00Hi ! Does the rate of your posting depend on some ...Hi ! Does the rate of your posting depend on some thing or you compose articles when you have a special mood or you create in case you have time? Can't wait to see your reply.Mister Lamarhttp://bigcityproblems.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-17708879852095368332012-09-06T13:01:41.825-07:002012-09-06T13:01:41.825-07:00Sorry to hear about Don Rosp Lynette. He must hav...Sorry to hear about Don Rosp Lynette. He must have been very special. Hugs, TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-32151464574746059962012-08-22T21:20:42.256-07:002012-08-22T21:20:42.256-07:00I agree with the reasons you mentioned. When I sta...I agree with the reasons you mentioned. When I started to get interested in the enneagram I was still quite skeptical about it. Luckily I had some support and guidance from a great teacher who helped me in my understanding, letting me see things more clearly. Reason 5 is very true and for me it was important to talk to someone with experience and understanding of this wonderful, complex system. Thanks for sharing your insight.<br /><br />http://www.newlifethaifoundation.com/mindfulness-program/enneagram/Tomhttp://newlifethaifoundation.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-38863740594652216702012-07-25T17:45:03.343-07:002012-07-25T17:45:03.343-07:00Agree w/ all of the above, but I found #5 to be tr...Agree w/ all of the above, but I found #5 to be true for me: hard to learn from the books and difficult to incorporate it w/ out work/study/classes. I did read two books that you & Theresa shared, and I found it to be pretty darned accurate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-51419945419920828522012-07-05T08:30:19.859-07:002012-07-05T08:30:19.859-07:00Dear all,
Really interesting to see this discussi...Dear all,<br /><br />Really interesting to see this discussion.<br /><br />I am curious about Jules' comments reference Australia being a type 6 culture, as, I think, the Brit perception of Ozzies is that they are can do, get on with it, don't complain kind of characters. My brother has talked about wanting to emigrate to Oz because they are less uptight and have fewer rules. Perhaps generally though larger places can feel less rule-bound than congested places like the UK.<br /><br />I like Russ Hudson's description of Britain. Upper class type one (strict adherence to etiquette), working class type six (dutiful work ethic), and we all meet round the back of the pub in our eccentric 5-ness! (our strange hobbies) Hopefully the class divisions don't run so deep here as they once did, but there's probably still merit in noticing the different strands to a culture.<br /><br />If such sub or multiple strands existed in Canada, US or Oz, what would they look like?<br /><br />Be well,<br />JackJack Butlerhttp://www.beingjackbutler.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-80572481821379498712012-01-23T23:45:49.195-08:002012-01-23T23:45:49.195-08:00Hi there, it's long after your article has bee...Hi there, it's long after your article has been written, but I just wanted to thank you for it from Australia! quite compelling.<br /><br />My mother & I often discuss the way countries have a particular enneagram skew. I haven't visited Canada, but from here I would definitely say its 'personality' differs greatly from the US(definitely type 3!!). <br /><br />In Australia we are a Type 6 culture through and through. Fear, fear and more fear and getting stuck in inaction permeates everything. Bureaucracy abounds and signs with rules are everywhere. Want to camp some place pretty? Forget it - too dangerous, must follow RULES! We should take a leaf out of Italy's book. I think they're type 4. Nevermind financial woes :-) <br /><br />The Canadians I've met have been super friendly but not enough to make any opinion on a possible national type. <br /><br />My mother is a fairly extreme example of type five. ie. her compulsions run deep! She says her default reaction to any demand or request is 'how can I get out of this?' and that the fear is immobilising. <br /><br />To me Canada doesn't have that feel to it, more the opposite 'how can I get you into this for some fun/support?' Very open, liberal and embracing. My more negative close hand (1 on 1) experiences with type Five are a sort of mega control over environement and others, an almost sociapathic or apathetic disconnection from others and a sense of avarice (often seeming selfish but are 'self protecting) that literally can put chills up ones spine. Mum's main catch phrase growing up was that she was 'drained' and exhausted. It was hard for her to be engaged with the world. Really, really hard. Still is but she does much better thanks to enneagram & so does our relationship that has been healed through the learning. Always ongoing. <br /> <br />I must visit Canada and see what the vibe is.. Thank you again. JulesJuleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05733248140743792050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-56781265949372906202011-11-15T13:09:43.213-08:002011-11-15T13:09:43.213-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Amy Lapisardihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00713837440257928212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-16802129653259538672011-09-25T15:04:21.941-07:002011-09-25T15:04:21.941-07:00Wow, Lynette. Thank you for this analysis. You&#...Wow, Lynette. Thank you for this analysis. You've certainly given me even more to think about. The Western Canada vs Eastern question certainly made me think more deeply of the contrast in behaviour and boundary issues for sure.<br />I truly love your insights. Please keep-a-posting! There are so few enneagram blogs out there.Serenityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03632233566563561861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-54573083708231077252011-09-10T12:04:43.644-07:002011-09-10T12:04:43.644-07:00Hi Serenity,
Glad to be back! Been a busy summer.
...Hi Serenity,<br />Glad to be back! Been a busy summer.<br /><br />Hmmmm 5 vs 9. Definitely the restraint demeanor plays in to my feeling - also, not to be too vague, but the "energy" feels more like strong personal boundaries rather than the more boundariless sense one feels in Niney cultures.<br /><br />I live in a Nine culture most of the year - on Molokai Hawaii where most of the people are native Hawaiians. Like many Nines I know, they are more likely to merge with others' agendas rather than their own, truly a hallmark characteristic of Nine. That's how they lost much of the culture to the missionaries and land ultimately to the United States. (Actually, the US just unlawfully took it, but that's another longer story.)<br /><br />Peacemaking isn't necessarily just the purview of the Nine - all types can be peacemakers given the situation - more important is Why they are peacemaking. Is it because they are more connected to other agendas than their own? (Nine) Is it because they want to be seen as peacemakers (Two or Three) Is it because they are driven by Fear (Six) or are afraid someone will rain on their parade (Seven) or because it is the right thing to do (One) or concern re: intrusion, conflict requiring time, energy, strong emotions (Five) etc.<br /><br />It seems to me that within the boundaries of Canada, the Native Americans might be more a Niney culture and provide some contrast to the overarching culture.<br /><br />As for the socialist bent, that can be any type as well. France is a Four country - and socialist. <br /><br />I think you bring up a really great point, though. I'd be really curious as to how others feel the Canadian culture shows type. I'd love to hear more of why it feels like a Nine culture to you.<br /><br />And is there a difference between Western Canada and EAstern? <br /><br />What's most intriguing is to have the discussion - how best to honor a culture - is it a type or an amalgam? Has it changed like the US has? (Three to Six)Lynette Sheppardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02896463175847071518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-48599637331603775052011-08-27T19:35:32.078-07:002011-08-27T19:35:32.078-07:00First of all, welcome back! I've missed your ...First of all, welcome back! I've missed your posts. Secondly, as a Canadian, I never thought to type Canada as a 5. 9 maybe due its peace-making role in various countries and due to its 'socialist' bent in terms of policy -- universal health care etc. I'm curious as to what makes Canada seem more a 5. Besides the restraint demeanor of citizens, what else...Serenityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03632233566563561861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-84086300993187330302011-06-17T06:36:56.033-07:002011-06-17T06:36:56.033-07:00What a wonderful expression of enneagramatic (is t...What a wonderful expression of enneagramatic (is that a word) knowledge. Typing people I first meet is one of my favorite ways to play with the enneagram. Excellent distinctions! Fun. Fun. Fun.Jhttp://www.jerrystocking.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4455006549162031455.post-40101566501809056112011-06-02T10:33:26.016-07:002011-06-02T10:33:26.016-07:00Interesting that so many people seem to think that...Interesting that so many people seem to think that Simon Cowell is an Eight. The whole "entrepeneur" thing really confuses people it seems. "Anyone who owns a thriving business must be an Eight.."<br /><br />I have to say I disagree about only a person themselves knowing their definite type. For a person who has a strong understanding of the fundamentals of the Enneagram (rather than a surface-level understanding of "traits") combined with a well-cultivated self-awareness, then yes I'll agree they are likely to accurately know their type. But someone who does a slap-dash read of an Enneagram book or who hasn't with integrity questioned their innermost motivations and observed themselves under a range of different circumstances is unlikely to be able to type themselves accurately. Unless you define someone's "type" as a closest match correlation to a list of traits. Which it isn't.<br /><br />A person who understands the fundamentals of the Enneagram and who observes a partner that they live with, for example, over a long period of time is likely to be able to type them more accurately than the partner could type themselves if they haven't engaged in much introspection. Very often a person will focus more on what they want to be, or how they would like to be seen, and type themselves accordingly. So while giving a person the ability to essentially "choose their type" is indeed very respectful, it perhaps isn't terribly helpful for anyone involved.<br /><br />A person's type exists as an objective entity. Unfortunately yes, it's source does exist only in the deepest recesses of their mind, which itself can only be accessed by an individual themselves with varying degrees of prying. However a person's type does give clues which are visible externally. Apart from body language and other such micro-cues given off when a person isn't consciously regulating their behaviour, their type is literally embodied in the muscles themselves. Patterns of tension are different for each type.<br /><br />A person's type is their style of attention, and their attention is mapped to their muscular system. Every shift in attention has a muscular component, in a one-to-one relationship. Repeated attentional shifts will result in repeated muscular activity, literally conditioning the muscles over time. Where a person experiences their greatest compulsion is where their muscles will have chronic patterns of tension, literally poised to take action at a moment's notice, in whatever form this action (or repression of action) may take - different for each type.<br /><br />So while each individual, even within the same type, will hold a different pattern of muscular activity, there will be significant common elements to those of the same type, and those common elements can be used to indicate type.<br /><br />This is a fact that has the potential to be exploited to remove all doubt over the otherwise often elusive notion of a person's "type". Quite literally a way to see into a person's mind and identify their repeated thoughts from an external vantage point, irrespective of self-knowledge of the person involved, and therefore not corrupted by subjective desires or misinterpretations.<br /><br />As for Simon Cowell... for me anyway, he appears to be a classic 3w4.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com